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March 26, 2007

okay, i’m gonna do politics instead of chauvanism.

i can turn more stomachs that way

and plus maybe get some hate comments calling me a

gay-loving liberal pinko commie bastard

or some such nonsense.

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(and now the intro is probably officially longer than the post)

if this is the land of the free, why are we trying to enslave the rest of the world? forcing them to live (and run their governments) by our standards?

i’m so sick of getting beaten with the wet noodle of *patriotism*

i have to say, put me in the same situation that our forefathers faced against england and i’d be the first bloke to pick up musket and saber.

put me in my grandfather’s shoes and i’d be right with him in a little cloth plane helping our european allies defend against germany (long before america *officially* entered the war)

i would stand shoulder to shoulder with any man to defend this country or its allies. good bad or indifferent.

and i would do this no matter what country i lived in. i don’t believe *we* are right and *they* are wrong.

it’s my country, dammit, and that’s why i’ll always stand up for it.

but it’s a coward’s game seeing threats in every shaddow and naming *enemy* anyone who thinks differently than you do.

i honestly hate to send this f*cker traffic at this point, but i would like you to have a chance to see what inspired today’s rant and judge for yourselves.

(get over there fast, kiddies, he’s the sort to pull a post if it gleans him negative press)

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senator mcCarthy, you are not forgotten

 

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13 Comments leave one →
  1. March 26, 2007 14:15

    Why such hostility?

  2. March 26, 2007 14:27

    I think you misunderstood the post completely. I wasn’t referring to all liberals. I was referring to these specific people for whom represent the people of whose website I’ve referred to. And these people happen to call themselves liberals, but I was not speaking of liberals in general –at all. In fact, another liberal commented on this post, and completely agreed with what I said.

    These people have openly supported America’s enemies and burned effigies of our soldiers. I find that highly disturbing and offensive.

    I know that most liberals will totally disagree with these kooks. I don’t have a problem with those who protest the war. I have a problem with those who root for America’s defeat. That is not patriotism, and if you consider yourself a patriot, then I find it hard to understand why you don’t feel the same way.

    And I never said that they don’t have the right to say what they said, but at the same time, I have the right to question their patriotism and loyalty to a country which I love and would give my life for. And make no mistake, words can go a long way, especially politically. If enough people felt this way, America would fall.

  3. March 26, 2007 14:28

    because the kind of thinking you put forth in that post is exactly what is holding people back worldwide from achieving their potential and becoming an actual world community.

    see my previous post (on this very same issue)

    and, erm, in light of your own post, ty for the irony of asking me why i’m being so hostile.

  4. March 26, 2007 14:33

    i understood your post

    why is that your default possition when someone disagrees with you? that they just must not understand.

    *these people have openly supported America’s enemies and burned effigies of our soldiers. i find that highly disturbing and offensive.*

    i hate to break it to you, but most of the world finds what america is doing (in actuality, not in effigy) highly offensive and attrocious.

    i support our soliders 100%

    i do not support the politics that put them where they are

    i did not say i agreed with these people only that i agree with their right to hold a contrary opinion without being considered traitors. your post labels them traitors, even going so far as to cite the bloody constitution by way of eroneous proof

  5. March 26, 2007 16:50

    because the kind of thinking you put forth in that post is exactly what is holding people back worldwide from achieving their potential and becoming an actual world community.

    Oh, thanks for the lesson on economics. I should have listened to you, instead of my college professors. What was I thinking?

    It is in fact YOUR system, not capitalism that allows people to achieve their full potential right? By the way, what is the name of your economic system?

    Are you espousing a one world government free from sovereignty and borders? You must REALLY love Bush’s plan for our borders then.

    Also, where is my other comment?

  6. March 26, 2007 16:51

    most of the world finds what america is doing (in actuality, not in effigy) highly offensive and attrocious.

    I wasn’t talking about the rest of the world. I was talking about other Americans.

    By the way, you misspelled atrocities.

    Besides, I find it odd that only part of the opinion is reported (conveniently) and also that the atrocities of the terrorists that we are fighting are rarely criticized by those outside the U.S. In other words, I don’t care about what the rest of the world thinks of us, since they hardly appear supportive of our struggle against this evil. This is due to fear, make no mistake about it.

    You ought to consider that I have the right to call them whatever I wish. You have the right to call me whatever you wish. I have the right to consider my that initial insight into your personality may not have been so much mistaken, after all. I hope I am wrong. You were nice for a while. What happened? Now you’re back to calling me names –again.

    I don’t care if you disagree with my opinion, but there is no need to make it personal and start calling me names –again. I don’t really wish to speak on these hostile terms, and it would be nice if you apologized for calling me an idiot.

    You say that I labeled them communist. No I didn’t, THEY themselves have. Visit their website if you don’t believe me. You act like communists don’t exist anymore, especially with the McCarthy remark.

    I’m sorry but your argument in the above post just doesn’t hold much water. It’s mainly a personal attack, not an argument in rebuttal.

    I’m not interested in making this personal. But this is the third time I’ve tried to leave this comment.

  7. March 26, 2007 16:53

    I tried posting the comment which isn’t showing up here on my blog instead and it showed up as a false positive in my spam list. So you might need to check your spam for my comment, which obviously is not spam.

    Thanks

  8. March 26, 2007 17:01

    erm…that statement had nothing to do with ecconomics, nor is communism MY system. i am a happy capitalist.

    no, i am espousing getting along, live and let live, live up to our promises to the world community, and stay out when we don’t belong.

    i was referring to the way you arbitrarily labeled these folks as traitors.

    as for your other comment, it seems to be in place now.

  9. March 26, 2007 17:14

    you just don’t get it.

    A. Not a personal attack
    B. I didn’t say those folk WEREN’T commies, I said you labeled them traitors. being communist is not a betrayal, it is merely a different perspective.
    C. I am well weary of agendamongering with you. I am sorry you had such trouble leaving your bloody comment. Not my doing. I like comments. Comments = Traffic 😉
    D. I misspell alot of things, but I am generally NOT misunderstood (You are the consistent exception to that rule. You and loneDrifter, but i suspect he misunderstands most things in his life)

  10. March 26, 2007 20:28

    *Ahem*

    We interrupt this “gathering of the minds” for a brief song…

    LET THERE BE PEACE ON EARTH….AND LET IT BEGIN WITH ME….LET THERE BE PEACE ON EARTH, THE PEACE THAT WAS MEANT TO BEEEEEE….

    Now, back to our regularly scheduled bashing….

  11. March 26, 2007 20:46

    yes, mother.

  12. March 26, 2007 22:14

    I’m not sure that carrying a sign that says “I hope the other guys win” isn’t pretty close to “adhering to [the United States’] enemies, giving them aid and comfort.” I suppose since the “aid and comfort” isn’t material, free speech should win out, but it is kind of treasonous in spirit IMO.

    OTOH, I am sure that calling a bunch of radical socialists “liberals” is cheap, divisive, stupid, Us vs. Them political hackery. But I guess I might as well join in. Next time I see a bunch of neo-Nazis, I’ll be sure to call them “conservatives.”

  13. March 26, 2007 23:04

    yeah, again, i don’t agree with their stance, just their right to it.

    i dunno. some people just want their 15 minutes of fame.

    the way i see it, if you have a real gripe with your government you can either actively act against that government (that is how this country started, after all) or you can leave and go live somewhere else under a government more to your liking.

    honestly, i already have a spot picked out in sight of sidney harbour.

    MY chief beef with placard wavers in general is that they rarely accomplish anything in this day and age. i am not a fan of terrorism, but i have more respect for the man who picks up a gun than one who pickets in protest.

    kindof a *get cookin or get out the kitchen* mentality, i suppose.

    i don’t particularly like our president.

    but i am delighted to have a crazy SOB in office. makes all the other crazy SOBs think twice. the fact that his family has enough money to keep a war going long after he’s out of office is just an added bonus

    you might well hear me call gwbush a dufus, because sometimes i just can’t help but blurt out the obvious, but you will never hear me complain about the man being in office. not even if he manages to get himself elected king.

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